Which codebase is better?
I recently saw this quote in an article by Nikita Hasis on Medium.
“If Your Test Leaders Aren’t Telling You To Write Code, They Are Lying!
Even if it’s by omission.
There’s this argument, almost daily, about whether software testers should learn programming. I’ll jump right in. It is unimaginable that someone would tell you NOT to learn something. That’s the first, and probably shittiest lie that inexperienced testers get fed. It’s further unimaginable, and downright irresponsible to tell people not to learn something that is very clearly where a large, well-paying, and above all interesting part of the industry is heading. Wanna work on innovative, data-driven projects with smart and driven people? You probably need to pull up terminal and at least get your toes wet, y’all.
The worst part of the lie is that it imposes that coding is a difficult grind and will only cause more problems than it solves. I even saw Alister Scott’s blog post referenced as an argument against coding, ironic as it is.”
~ Nikita Hasis (Medium)
Since Medium is a walled garden that doesn’t allow you to leave a comment without creating an account I’ll leave my response here instead (where anyone is free to comment however they like).
At Automattic we’re always dogfooding; we’re always testing as we develop and therefore we’re always finding bugs.
When I come across one of these bugs I try to capture as much as I can about what I was doing at the time when it happened, and also capture some evidence (a screenshot, visual recording, error messages, browser console) of it happening. But even then on occasion I can’t work out how to reproduce a bug.
This doesn’t mean the bug isn’t reproducible; it’s just that because there’s so many factors in the highly-distributed, multi-level systems that we develop and test, this means I don’t know how to reproduce these exact circumstances, therefore I don’t know how to reproduce this bug.
The exact set of circumstances that may cause a bug are never entirely reproducible; just like you can never live the exact same moment of your life ever again.
So, when this bug occurred, perhaps the server was under a particular level of load at that exact moment in time. Or one of the load-balancers was restarting, or maybe even my home broadband speed was affected by my children streaming The Octonauts in the next room.
So it can seem almost like a miracle when you do know how to reproduce a bug.
But what do you do with all of those bugs that you haven’t been able to reproduce?
Could you share us some automation testing channel that could help up update the news of testing trend also improve ourself for a better technical skill and problem solved
There’s an awesome blog/channel, right here on WordPress.com, that meets your needs perfectly, it’s called Five Blogs. So make sure you check it out and you can follow it for great frequent updates.
Marisa Roman asks…
I have been testing web apps for over ten years, and making cross-browser testing “suck less” has been and still is a top goal of mine. I recognize that visual presentation/layout must be reviewed by human eyes, but given the growing number of OS/device/browser combinations we need to support/test, I feel like I’m missing an opportunity to streamline things every time I spin up a dozen VMs to check a new page.
Here’s what I do currently, using an online tool that provides access to various OS/device/browser combinations
1. I spin up a VM for an OS/device/browser combo I’m checking and check the page
2. Repeat step 1 for each combo I need to check
I have done a little bit of research on the tool’s APIs and I think I could at least automate the process of spinning up each combination I need.
I have also tried tools that purport to be able to play back your recorded Selenium IDE steps in whichever configurations you choose, but it didn’t work very well even if I took the time to update the recorded steps to use reliable locators.
Also, while we do have automated smoke and regression suites using Selenium, I have not been exposed to or thought of an automated approach to checking page layout that doesn’t immediately seem like it would be awful to maintain (other than perhaps just recording screencasts while interacting with each page and having a human review them).
So: How do you approach cross-browser testing for new feature development and for regression purposes?
Thanks so much for your AMA and I hope you pick my question!
I’ll split the response into two parts: what I recommend for cross-browser regression testing, and what I recommend for cross-browser new feature testing.
Cross-browser Testing for Regression Purposes
I am still on the opinion that there’s little-to-no return on investment (ROI) in running automated functional regression tests across different browsers. My approach is to typically understand what your most used customer browser is (most likely Chrome) and automate your e2e regression tests against that. I’m still of the opinion, even though tools like Selenium-WebDriver have multi browser support, that maintaining a suite of e2e tests that work consistently across multiple browsers is an onerous task. The one variant that that I do like to automatically test is different screen resolutions, as fully responsive web applications can functionally behave differently at different screen widths in the same browser. At WordPress.com, for example, we run our e2e tests against three screen sizes in Chrome (mobile, tablet, and desktop).
We also run automated visual comparison tests to ensure we don’t introduce unexpected variances in our interface design/appearance. These run in the same three sizes in a single browser (which happens to be Firefox for technical reasons). They have some dynamic content capability so if the layout of the page looks okay, but the content is slightly different, then they still pass. There still is an additional overhead in maintaining these in addition to our functional tests though.
Whilst automated e2e tests are great to cover key scenarios for regression purposes, I have found it also very useful to supplement this with continuous exploratory testing of existing functionality in real world use (dogfooding) in different browsers, different operating systems and on different devices. This picks up real human issues that our automated e2e and visual comparison tests don’t find.
We are huge believers in continuous dogfooding at WordPress.com to the extent that we recently built a Slack ‘testbot’ that suggests both a real user flow and a browser/OS to test that on for when you feel like testing something. For example:
alisterscott: I am looking for something to test testbot: @alisterscott: Try creating a new post making sure you add some media in IE10
Cross-browser Testing for New Feature Testing
I don’t believe you can test all new features on all browsers (unless you have a really big team maybe). So you can either take a risk based approach (test the most used browsers first), or you can just mix it up and test different features in different browsers.
Sometimes there may be exceptions, I recently tested a upgraded version of our WYSIWYG editor and I wanted to be sure that this worked on various browsers – even upcoming ones which is what the new editor was adding support for.
Our WordPress.com admin interface Calypso only supports IE10 and Edge, so if I want to test in either of those, I use a freely, legally available Microsoft VM running in VirtualBox on OSX to test this. These VMs work really well.
To summarise, cross-browser testing still sucks, but it’s still a thing we need to do, especially when we have diverse groups of users with different devices and browsers. There is a trend towards browser vendors fully embracing/adopting open browser/web standards so hopefully browser specific bugs, or quirks, will soon become a thing of the past. For example Microsoft Edge is a much nicer browser to develop for and test than previous Internet Explorer versions. One can only hope and pray.
hey, i like your blog, i’m reading your blog on a daily basis, and i just want to ask you what i can i do to enhance my skills, knowledge and to be a be good in functional testing (manual and automation) IF i’m the ONLY tester in my current company (performing all testing activities), but i feel that i have a mess in my head and lots to learn to be up to date with the last trends.
my question now “What to learn, When(everyday?) and How in case your are the only tester in your company”.
i hope to answer my question soon to make my head calm down
I have fond memories of a project where I worked as the solo tester on a software delivery team; we had something like 8 developers (including one lead who took on iteration management tasks) and me as a tester. That was it. I loved it because we established really good unhindered rapport with our business stakeholders, and I was always busy!
But getting back to your question: when I was working in that situation it was vital that we had developers working on as much test automation as possible, alongside functional development, since there was just too much functional testing to do for a single person also doing test automation. I found myself spending about 80% of my time just testing new functionality and spot-testing different browsers/devices etc. The remaining 20% I spent ensuring we had good regression test coverage through the automated tests that developers were writing and I was helping maintain. So first and foremost I would strongly encourage you to get the developers you work with to have as much responsibility as possible for automated tests.
If you have this in place you should be able to take a deep breath and spend more time doing quality testing. I have found the best way to learn is on the job, you’ll be in a good position to do this, and often you’ll learn best by making your own mistakes.
If you want to know more about how to become better at what you do, I’ve shared some tips in a previous answer. There’s also my Pride & Paradev book which I wrote whilst working as a solo tester on a team.
All the best.
Imagine if someone came to you and told you that your website was causing their laptop to throw a fatal system error, the dreaded ‘blue screen of death‘, what would your response be?
Well I know what my response would be because it happened to me. My response was “no way! That can’t happen! A website can’t make a computer BSOD!” I would have bet $1000 on that. Turns out I was wrong; very wrong.
I was working for a very popular pizza delivery chain and one day our development team began receiving reports of customer’s complaints (mostly via social media) that our site was causing their computers to throw blue screen of death errors! We laughed about it, yeah right, that can’t happen! Crash a browser tab maybe, but not an operating system. But we tried to reproduce it anyway on the large number of laptops we had and no matter how hard we tried we couldn’t reproduce it.
A few days later a member of our customer support team appeared saying our site just BSOD’d his laptop! We were curious, very curious. So we started the laptop back up and visited our site and voila! BSOD!
Now here’s where you might not believe me, so I took a video of it as proof, for your enjoyment:
Now that we had a single laptop that consistently reproduced the BSOD we could work out why it was happening.
It was only happening in Chrome, and only on this single laptop which ran Windows 8. We built/ran our site on a developer’s machine and accessed it via this laptop and could reproduce the crash every time.
We noted that the version of Chrome was one version behind the latest version on every other laptop we had – the update had somehow stopped and was stuck at that version.
But we didn’t update Chrome as that would have destroyed our single machine that was reproducing our issue! (It is pretty much impossible to get find older versions of Chrome).
After some time, it was a lengthy process as each test would result in a reboot, when we removed a resource reference to a font our site used, which was actually a Google Font on their CDN, it suddenly stopped BSODing. We added it back and voila; it crashed.
A reference to a Google Font on our site was giving our customers Blue Screens of Death.
After some research we discovered it was a Chromium bug which affected all versions of Windows (only), as Chromium/Chrome were working on native font rendering for Windows. Google were very quick to patch this issue, however, if someone was stuck on an older version then it would still be an issue: there wasn’t anything we could do about it but inform our customers to ensure they are on the latest version of Chrome.
I learned a few lessons during that day:
- bugs can happen anywhere and cause damage that you can’t imagine;
- bugs aren’t always in your control: we didn’t write bad software to crash our customer’s machines – this wasn’t tied to a particular release that we did. You can’t just test changes to your site and expect it to be okay;
- you can’t find every bug: to find this bug we would have had to constantly check our upcoming and production site against every upcoming version of Chrome on every operating system. Chrome isn’t like IE with releases every few years, you’d almost need a full time tester just to perform this role; and
- a website can blue screen of death your laptop.